Monthly Archives: April 2011
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Yep, we knew this was coming didn’t we?
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Yep, our president refuses to issue drilling permits and generally does his best to kill domestic oil production, which will, of course do a lot to drive up gas prices, then blames the price spike on……………………..
U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday blamed speculators for driving gasoline prices higher and straining American consumers, saying there was enough oil in world markets to meet demand.
Speaking at a community college in suburban Virginia, Obama said increasing production of U.S. oil and creating a market for fuel-efficient cars would help meet the country’s energy challenges.
“I know that if you’ve got a limited budget and you just watch that hard-earned money going away to oil companies that will once again probably make record profits this quarter, it’s pretty frustrating,” he said.
Rising fuel prices are a persistent concern for the White House, which is worried about their impact on the economy and on voters’ wallets as Obama runs for re-election.
The president, of course, is hoping enough Americans are stupid enough not to connect the obvious dots that point at his idiotic policies as the reason for soaring prices. Rather than drilling here for our own oil, which we have far more of than Obama will admit, he offers to help Brazil harvest THEIR offshore oil. Now, understand I believe the United States could be energy independent if we had decide to be decades ago. That we are, as a nation not energy independent is the fault of every president, and congress for the past decades, this is a problem both parties have brought us. But this administration seems Hellbent on destroying domestic oil production, and if they want to blame rising gas prices on someone, well…………
Racism? What racism?
Can you say double standards? No one seems to like hypocrisy, or double standards, yet, as Chris points out, these thing exist Even if the left refuses to see them as what they obviously are!
I don’t think the leaders of the New Black Panthers understand the meaning of the word “irony.”
Hot off their denunciation of an insignificant neo-nazi rally in Trenton last week, the New Black Panthers are organizing a “National Day of Action and Unity” to, get this, boycott “all non-black business“ on April 23rd. (h/t Nice Deb)
The New Black Panthers plan to protest non-black establishments and entities via “rallies, marches, demonstrations, programs, and confrontations” in over 60 cities.
“Because blacks worldwide are dissatisfied at their current condition,” the Panther’s announcement explain
I have never, nor will I ever grasp how the left excuses blatant bigotry when it is perpetrated by “minorities”. Of course, I get that Leftism, like all the bastard ideologies stemming from Marxism thrive on labeling then dividing people in order to gain influence and power. The Left has always divided people, whether by class, race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. For all their talk of tolerance, the left is nothing of the sort. Sure they tolerate those who agree with them, but just try to deviate from their way, and see how quickly they throw you under the bus.
The “Panthers” are just another leftist group, seeking to divide people to gain power.
Obama Excludes Border Governors From Immigration Meeting
Obama Excludes Border Governors From Immigration Meeting – Washington Examiner
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was there. So was Al Sharpton and AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka. Not on the invitation list? Any active governor from any border state. Which is odd since the meeting held yesterday at the White House was titled: President’s Meeting with Stakeholders on Fixing the Broken Immigration System.
Are the active governors of our nation’s border states not “stakeholders” in our “broken immigration system”? Not for this White House. From day one, the Obama administration has sought to undermine state law enforcement cooperation and authority over illegal immigration.
Within months of taking office, the Department of Homeland Security weakened the 287(g) program that President bill Clinton created in 1996 to increase cooperation on border enforcement between federal and local law enforcement. Since then the Department of Justice has gone to war with Arizona over their law enforcement efforts instead of working with them.
Obama did invite a number of mayors to his illegal immigration meeting, many of whom, like Bloomberg, preside over sanctuary cities. While states that have stepped up enforcement, like Arizona, have seen dramatic decreases in their illegal immigration problem, sanctuary cities continue to serve as a magnet for more illegal entries. Tuesday’s invite list shows which policy outcome Obama prefers.
Rep. Peter King Challenges Holder On Muslim Terror Funding
Rep. Peter King Challenges Holder On Muslim Terror Funding – Daily Caller
Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security, New York Republican Rep. Peter T. King is demanding answers from Attorney General Eric Holder, calling on Holder to explain to why the Justice Department decided not to prosecute the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) in a Hamas terror finance case.
In a letter to Holder, King questions the credibility of Justice Department for deciding not to prosecute the aforementioned actors in United States v. Holy Land Foundation.
“I have been reliably informed that the decision not to seek indictments of the Council on American Islamic Relations (“CAIR”) and its co-founder Omar Ahmad, the Islamic Society of North America (“ISNA”), and the North American Islamic Trust (“NAIT”), was usurped by high-ranking officials at Department of Justice headquarters over the vehement and stated objections of special agents and supervisors of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as well as the prosecutors at the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Dallas, who had investigated and successfully prosecuted the Holy Land Foundation case,” King wrote. “Their opposition to this decision raises serious doubt that the decision not to prosecute was a valid exercise of prosecutorial discretion.”
King requests that Holder respond to his questions by April 25th, including the reason Justice did not pursue cases against the three groups and Omar Ahmad (co-founder of CAIR and former head of a Muslim Brotherhood branch); the person behind the decision to drop the case and if the decision involved anybody from the executive branch; and how will concerns about these groups funding terrorists be handled in the future.
King cites a previously sealed “Memorandum Opinion Order” from United States District Judge Jorge A. Solis who refused the three group’s earlier requests not to have their names listed as unindicted co-conspirators.
“Judge Solis found that the ‘Government has produced ample evidence to establish the associations of CAIR, ISNA and NAIT with [the Holy Land Foundation, ‘HLF’], the Islamic Association for Palestine (‘IAP), and with Hamas.’ The Court found that the evidence was ‘sufficient to show the association of these entities with HLF, IAP, and Hamas,’” wrote King, clarifying that that State Department has listed Hamas as a terrorist organization since 1997.
Some in the Muslim community have not reacted well to King’s questioning of the Justice Department.
“It is sad that Representative King’s personal vendetta against the American Muslim community has led him to become a mouthpiece for anti-Islam hate,” CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper told TheDC in a statement. “This is an obvious attempt at political payback for criticism of the anti-Muslim bias in Mr. King’s recent hearing. Representative King is abusing the power of his office to carry out a political witch hunt targeting American Muslims.”
King has been at the forefront of fighting Muslim terrorism. In March King spearheaded congressional hearings on Islamic radicalization.
Michigan Cops Can Now Steal Cell Phone Data ‘Without The Owner Knowing’
Michigan Cops Can Now Steal Cell Phone Data ‘Without The Owner Knowing’ – The Blaze
It’s a scary scenario. You’re driving down the road and get pulled over by a state patrolman. After checking your license and registration, the officer asks for your cell phone, and then uses a futuristic machine to download all your data. In Michigan, it’s happening.
CNet.com reports the Michigan State Police (MSP) are using “extraction devices” to download personal information from motorists’ cell phones, including contacts, videos, GPS data, and pictures, “even if they’re not suspected of any crime.”
“The handheld machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information,” CNet says. The MSP have admitted to owning five of the devices.
The ACLU isn’t happy. In a press release last week, the group continued its mission to have the MSP hand over records indicating how the information is being used. For three years, the release says, the MSP has been giving the ACLU the run around. In fact, it’s now come to the point where the MSP is demanding over $500,000 in processing fees to fork over the data.
“We should not have to go on expensive fishing expeditions in order to discover whether police are violating the rights of residents they have resolved to protect and serve,” the release said.
“Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags,” a brochure from device manufacturer Cellebrite says about the tool’s capabilities. “The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps.”
The ACLU also says the data extraction can take place “without the owner of the cellphone knowing.”
The group is now threatening to sue in order to get the data.
“This seems like a pretty obvious violation of the 4th Amendment prohibition of unreasonable searches and seizures,” Business Insider writes. “If a police officer can’t look into your trunk when you get pulled over, they certainly can’t download your photos and text messages.”
Anti-Bomb Plan For Pentagon Annex Posted Online
Anti-Bomb Plan For Pentagon Annex Posted Online – Reuters
In what officials admit is a major breach of security, a document describing design features intended to make a new Defense Department building bomb-resistant has been posted on a public government website.
The document, comprising a 30-page narrative and hundreds of pages of technical data, describes bomb-proofing features which were incorporated in the structural design of the Mark Center, a new office complex in Alexandria, Virginia, Around 6,400 Defense Department personnel are scheduled to move into the building later this year.
One of the document’s key points is raising eyebrows among some experts — the building’s level of bomb resistance.
According to the paper, the Mark Center is designed to resist threats posed by vehicle bombs detonated outside the building’s security perimeter carrying the equivalent of 220 pounds (100 kg) of TNT.
That is far less than the amount of explosive used in recent attacks in the United States, including the 1993 bombing of New York’s World Trade Center and 1995 bombing of the Alfred Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City.
The top and bottom of every page of the 424-page document on the Mark Center is stamped “For Official Use Only” — a label which is supposed to mean that the unclassified document will not circulate outside official channels.
But Reuters found a copy of the report posted on a public website maintained by the Army Corps of Engineers. The Corps is responsible for the design and construction of a variety of government projects, ranging from office buildings to the flood defense structures meant to protect cities like New Orleans.
The report could be found on the Corps’ public website nearly 24 hours after Reuters advised the Corps and top Pentagon officials that it had been publicly posted. Even after the Pentagon said the document had been taken down from the public website, a version could still be accessed in a Google cache.
A spokesman for the Corps, Ken Wells, said: “This should not have happened. We take it very seriously,”
Michael Greenberger, a former Justice Department lawyer who heads a Homeland Security institute at the University of Maryland, said the document is a “recipe for an attack. It should not be on the Internet.”
The document would allow potential attackers to examine the building’s bomb-proofing features to pinpoint weaknesses, according to Tom Thurman, a former FBI bomb disposal expert who now teaches security and emergency management at Eastern Kentucky University.
“If you know what all the defenses are, you plan the attack around those defenses,” he said. The public posting of such a document is “inexcusable,” he said, adding: “It’s not something that should be on any unsecure government website whatsoever.”
Another spokesman for Corps of Engineers Headquarters, Curry Graham, acknowledged the document had been mistakenly posted on a public website and that the government was doing all it could to take it down.
“You can pretty well tell it’s an official document, ‘for official use only,’ from a contractor back to Corps officials,” Graham said. “It looks like it was inadvertently published or put on our public site,” he said, rather than on password-protected sites the Corps uses to share sensitive information among contractors.
Graham said the document was dated 2009 and acknowledged it was possible the document has been openly posted on the web “since that time.”
He said he did not know whether the document had been posted on the public website by a private contractor or by government employees. He said the Corps has “launched an inquiry into this to find out how it was posted.”
The building whose design is examined in the publicly posted paper is a few miles south of the Pentagon, the Defense Department’s headquarters. It was built alongside one of Washington’s busiest highways, Interstate 395.
The building is comprised of 15-story and 17-story towers joined up to the 10th floor.
Education Official Continued To Receive Federal Benefits After Leaving Job
Education Official Continued To Receive Federal Benefits After Leaving Job – Centre Daily
Why did a top official at the Department of Education continue to receive federal benefits after he left his federal job? Today, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) sent a letter to Department of Education (DOE) Inspector General Kathleen S. Tighe asking for an investigation into the department’s consultant agreement with former Deputy Undersecretary Robert Shireman. Mr. Shireman left his government job in June of 2010, but was immediately hired as a paid intermittent consultant to Education’s Office of Federal Student Aid.
Despite this change in employment status, newly released documents show Education officials agreed Mr. Shireman could continue to receive federal benefits, including health care, paid leave, and retirement benefits. Education’s personnel manual specifically prohibits intermittent consultants from receiving such benefits. Education redacted the identities of the officials who signed off on the agreement.
“Mr. Shireman got one heck of a deal: benefits available to federal employees without the bother of a full-time job,” said CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan. “Given his role in the growing scandal that shows the cozy relationship between DOE officials and Wall Street short-sellers, the inspector general needs to take a look at this arrangement and find out who agreed to it and why.”
During his time as Deputy Undersecretary, Mr. Shireman headed the effort to more stringently regulate for-profit education companies. An investigation by CREW has uncovered records that show extensive contact between DOE officials and Wall Street investors. Particularly troubling were the many emails that revealed short-sellers were influencing proposed regulations in a way that stood to drive down the stock price of for-profit colleges and allow investors to reap huge profits. Based on these documents, CREW asked the Securities and Exchange Commission to investigate possible market manipulation and twice asked Education Secretary Arne Duncan to examine the improper influence on Education’s regulatory process.
Click here to read CREW’s letter to the Department of Education
Click here to read CREW’s exhibits.
Click here to read this release on CREW’s website.
Governor Jindal Will Sign Presidential Eligibility Bill If Passed By State Legislature
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal (R) indicated that he’ll sign the Presidential Eligibility bill, if were to pass and reach his desk for signature.
The Presidential Eligibility bill (House Bill 561) would require all potential candidates in a federal election must provide their original or certified copy of their birth certificate with an affadavit stating that they are “natural born” US citizens before they can be put on the ballot.
This bill would affect US House, Senate, and presidential candidates.
Governor Jindal’s press secretary indicated that it wasn’t really on the governor’s agenda, and the he isn’t pushing for it. However, he won’t stand in the way of it becoming law, either.
The bill was introduced by Shrevport’s state Rep. Alan Seabaugh (R) and state Sen. A.G. Crowe (R) of Slidell.
Seabaugh said that he had no doubt that Obama was a US-born citizen. He only wanted to passs it to put to bed the numerous lawsuits filed against the White House over President Obama’s citizenship.
Since Obama refuses to release his birth certificate, Seabaugh said that the lawsuits can’t be decided on the merits, and that is “offensive” to him.
Daily Benefactor News – $14,000: The Amount A Florida Unemployment Office Spent On Superhero Capes
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$14,000: The Amount A Florida Unemployment Office Spent On Superhero Capes – The Blaze
Florida officials are investigating an unemployment agency that spent public money to give 6,000 superhero capes to the jobless.
Workforce Central Florida spent more than $14,000 on the red capes as part of its “Cape-A-Bility Challenge” public relations campaign.
The campaign featured a cartoon character, “Dr. Evil Unemployment,” who needs to be vanquished.
Florida’s unemployment agency director asked Monday for an investigation of the regional operation’s spending after the Orlando Sentinel published a story about the program.
State director Cynthia Lorenzo said the spending appeared to be “insensitive and wasteful.”
Workforce Central Florida Director Gary J. Earl defends the program, saying it is part of a greater effort to connect with the community.
The agency says it served 210,000 people during its last fiscal year, placing nearly 59,000 in jobs.
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Violent, Stupid Leftists Threaten Wrong Koch Company In Iowa – Gateway Pundit
In case you haven’t noticed, the left is targeting Koch Industries this year for supporting conservative causes.
Here’s one of the vile signs carried by government union supporters in Wisconsin.
Violent stupid leftists sent death threats to the wrong Koch Company in Iowa. The small firm in Des Moines has received several threats including death threats from confused leftist radicals.
The Des Moines Register reported:
A case of mistaken identity has entangled a small family-owned Des Moines company in union protests and led to a death threat.
Angry callers are mistaking Koch Brothers, a Des Moines office supply firm, with the brothers who own Koch Industries, the global energy conglomerate. Billionaires Charles and David Koch have fought Wisconsin unions, financed the tea party and opposed climate change rules.
Dutch Koch, president of the Des Moines company, wants everyone to know he’s not one of those Koch brothers, and he’s not politically active.
“I initially thought it was humorous to be confused with a multibillionaire,” he said, but then a death threat was left on his answering machine. Koch reported the call to the FBI, which he said traced it to a California man.
The Koch Brothers employ 65 employees in Des Moines and Cedar Rapids. Brothers George, William and Frank Koch founded the company in 1889 as a spinoff from the Des Moines Register and Leader’s job printing shop.
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Republicans: Drill here drill now! Dems: Drill anywhere but here now!
Drilling in Columbia? SURE! Hell we Americans can even PAY FOR IT!
If you believe that drilling for oil is bad and destructive to the environment but yet you need oil to continue to survive as a society, than the best way to do it is in the most nondestructive manner using the safest methods in the most green friendly nation in the world. To ban drilling in your safe, clean, and green nation and then turn around and support drilling in less safe, clean, and green nations is to work to damage the environment more and to cause more global warming (if you believe it), while demonstrating that you are a hypocrite.
Yet that is exactly what the Obama administration is doing- banning and hindering the more safe and more environmentally-friendly drilling methods that the United States can be engaged in while on the other hand supporting less safe and less environmentally-friendly drilling methods in other nations. The Obama administration is quickly owning the word hypocrisy, and will soon redefine it from “a state of incongruence between one’s professed beliefs and feelings and one’s actual beliefs and feelings” to “acting like Barack Obama and his Democratic allies.”
From memeorandum, U.S. Gov’t Agency Plans $2.84 Billion Loan for Oil Refinery—In Colombia:
The U.S. Export-Import Bank, an independent agency of the federal government, is now planning a $2.84-billion loan for a massive project to expand and upgrade an oil refinery–in Cartagena, Colombia. The money would go to Reficar, a wholly owned subsidiary of Ecopetrol, the Colombian national oil company.
“This is part of a $5.18 billion refinery and upgrade project in Cartagena, Colombia supplying petroleum products to the domestic and export markets,” the Export-Import Bank said in a statement.
The U.S. government-controlled bank says the $2.84-billion in financing it plans to undertake will be the second largest project it has ever done. The largest was $3 billion in financing for a liquid natural gas project in Papua New Guinea….
….Also according to NPRA, the last time a new oil refinery was built in the United States was 1993, when a small facility was built in Valdez, Alaska. The last time a new large oil refinery was built in the United States was 1976, says NPRA….
It it complete incompetence? Or anti-American intentions?
If You are Left, You Just Ain’t Right #46 4-11-11
Finally got this to post here, my show will return next Monday night at 10PM EST
Project Gunrunner Update: ATF Ignored Warnings, DOJ Ignores Document Requests
Project Gunrunner Update: ATF Ignored Warnings, DOJ Ignores Document Requests – Michelle Malkin
Tick, tick, tick. Another Project Gunrunner disclosure deadline approaches for the Obama Department of Justice. And GOP watchdogs are hammering away at yet another stonewall erected by corruptocrat Attorney General Eric Holder.
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Late last week, Sen. Charles Grassley roasted the DOJ for failing to produce documents he requested in February – and released his own set of damning e-mails between a gun shop owner who had protested the ATF’s dangerous straw purchase scheme repeatedly. Via CBS News’s Sheryl Atkinson:
Damning, newly-obtained emails show that a key gun shop owner made explicit concerns in writing last year in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms’ “gunwalking” scandal.
Starting in late 2009, ATF allegedly directed an undetermined number of Phoenix-area gun shop owners to go ahead with sales of thousands of assault rifles and other weapons to suspicious buyers. Insiders claim ATF knew the buyers were connected to Mexico’s drug cartels, but let the guns “walk” onto the street anyway in a misguided attempt to obtain intelligence. ATF and the Justice Department have denied that.
Investigators from Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) obtained the emails this week.
You can download the pdf file of Grassley’s letter to the DOJ and the e-mails here.
This will make your blood boil over:
On June 17, 2010, the gun dealer wrote to the ATF to again express concerns after seeing a report on Fox News about firearms and the border:
The segment, if the information was correct, is disturbing to me. When you, [the Assistant U.S. Attorney], and I met on May 13th, I shared my concerns with you guys that I wanted to make sure that none of the firearms that were sold per our conversation with you and various ATF agents could or would ever end up south of the border or in the hands of the bad guys… I want to help ATF with its investigation but not at the risk of agents‟ safety because I have some very close friends that are U.S. Border Patrol agents in southern AZ[.]5
Incredibly, the FFL sent this email six months before guns from the same ATF operation were found at the scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry‟s murder. So, not only were the ATF agents who later blew the whistle predicting that this operation would end in tragedy, so were the gun dealers – even as ATF urged them to make the sales. Furthermore, according to the FFL, there were “one or two” occasions on which his employees actually witnessed and recorded with surveillance cameras an exchange of money between the straw purchaser and another individual on the premises.6
Despite this actual knowledge of a straw purchase, the dealer said ATF officials wanted him to proceed with the transaction.7 However, his employees refused to process the sale.8
In light of this new evidence, the Justice Department‟s claim that the ATF never knowingly sanctioned or allowed the sale of assault weapons to straw purchasers is simply not credible.
Grassley wants to know:
1.Do you stand by the assertion in the Department‟s reply that the ATF whistleblower allegations are “false” and specifically that ATF did not sanction or otherwise knowingly allow the sale of assault weapons to straw purchasers? If so, please explain why in light of the mounting evidence to the contrary.
2. Will you commit to providing the Senate Judiciary Committee with documents, or access to documents, simultaneously with the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform? If not, please explain why not.
Grassley’s deadline for a DOJ response to his continued inquiries is tomorrow.
Tick, tick, tick.
New York Nanny-State Nazis Declare Wiffle Ball, Red Rover And Capture The Flag Dangerous To Children
State bureaucrats have identified a potentially deadly hazard facing our children this summer – freeze tag.
That’s right, officials have decided the age-old street game – along with Wiffle Ball, kickball and dodgeball – poses a “significant risk of injury.”
And classics like Capture the Flag, Steal the Bacon and Red Rover are also deemed dangerous in new state regulations for day camps.
“It looks like Albany bureaucrats are looking for kids to just sit in a corner in a house all day and not be outside,” said state Sen. Patty Ritchie (R-St. Lawrence County).
“I don’t think Wiffle Ball is a dangerous sport.”
The Health Department created a list of supposedly risky recreational activities – which also includes more perilous pursuits like archery, scuba and horseback riding – in response to a state law passed in 2009.
The law sought to close a loophole that legislators said allowed too many indoor camp programs to operate without oversight.
Under the new rules, any program that offers two or more organized recreational activities – with at least one of them on the risky list – is deemed a summer camp and subject to state regulation.
Ritchie said the regulations could cripple small recreational programs, forcing them to pay a $200 fee to register as a summer camp and provide medical staff.
And many parents felt like state officials were being, well, wimpy.
Kimberly Baxter, 27, a medical assistant from South Ozone Park, Queens, said she played freeze tag with abandon as a youngster.
“I never got hurt, maybe scraped my knee once in a while but that was it,” said Baxter, mom to a 1-year-old girl.
Deborah Graham, 51, a mother of two from Harlem, said moving around was less harmful than playing video games all summer.
“You could develop Carpal Tunnel Syndrome,” she said. “And when (kids) eat, eat, and eat, they get diabetes. That’s dangerous.”
The state Camp Directors Association backed the 2009 law, and Health Department spokeswoman Diane Mathis said the list of risky activities was crafted with help from camp groups.
She said the list – which labeled Frisbee, tug of war and sack races as safe – was offered only as “guidance” to local governments and organization.
She stressed that not every program will need to hire medical staff. Some simply need to have a plan in place to deal with medical emergencies.
“There will be flexibility in how the law is implemented,” Mathis said.
Susan Craig, a spokeswoman for the city Health Department, said the new law is not expected to have much impact since most city programs already meet the state requirements.
While many New Yorkers scoffed at the idea of tag leading to traumatic brain or spinal injury, Bronx resident Kim Wainwright said it’s better to be safe than sorry.
“Kids these days are kinda brutal so I can see those games being dangerous,” said Wainwright, who has a 5-year-old. “I agree with it.”
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