Yes, certain “Republicans” need to go, but the Freedom Caucus are not among them. President Trump should not be talking about “fighting” them, he should work with them. As Dana notes in the video, there are seven bills that could have been brought back up for a vote, SEVEN! But Trump trusted in Paul Ryan, the Conservatives were left out of writing a new bill, and we got an awful health care bill that kept far, far too much of ObamaCare. The Freedom Caucus was right not to vote for it.
Twilla Brase, a certified public health nurse and the co-founder and president of the Citizens’ Council for Health Freedom (CCHF) in St. Paul, Minnesota, rips into how the GOP screwed up repealing Obamacare
“Their bill, the American Heath Care Act, just pulled from the House last Friday did not repeal Obamacare. It didn’t even replace Obamacare.”
Instead, Ryancare continued government-run health care with mandates, guaranteed-issue requirements and more, she says. “Nothing [in it would have] guaranteed prices will go down or access will go up” for patients, she says.
As for what went wrong, Brase says conservatives were never really welcomed and included in the policy discussions leading to this package. In fact, she says some speculate that the Republican establishment thought they didn’t need to consult conservatives, but could just use Trump to bully his base into agreeing to the concocted replacement bill.
We know that Steve Bannon tried to bully memebers of the Freedom Caucus into voting for the Ryan’s
healthcare bill Crap Sandwich, and failed miserably
White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon told a group of House conservatives they had no choice but to back the GOP’s ObamaCare repeal bill days before the bill was pulled, according to a new report.
Bannon confronted members of the House Freedom Caucus earlier this week during the White House’s push for the American Health Care Act, Axios’s Mike Allen reported Saturday in his newsletter.
“Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill,” Bannon reportedly said.
If that is true, then at least of of those Republicans should have told Bannon to go intercourse himself, except in more garphic language frankly. In any case Ryancare collapsed because it sucked in a most sucktacular fashion, can you say 17% approval? So now, it is time to go back and REPEAL Obamacare. Then get a bill that gets government OUT, regulations OUT, and address health freedom. Here is a link to Twilla Brase’s group and their ideas Citizens’ Council for Health Freedom and here is a pdf on things Congress can do to help
Restore Affordability The high-cost of insurance and medical delivery today are a result of heavy third-party involvement in every medical decision…and burdensome regs, reporting, measurement –
TRUE INSURANCE – Expand/Restore major-medical indemnity policies. –
COST CONSCIOUS – Require individual skin in the game, even Medicaid. –
BLOCK GRANTS – Provide Medicaid block grants that allow states to direct contract with doctors and hospitals, bypassing costly managed care PMPM payment/contracts.
CUTS COSTS – End costly overhead, bureaucracy, “quality” reporting, contracts, regs,
End Pre-Existing Conditions Pre-Ex conditions are typically “acquired” when a child with a condition ages out of a family policy or when an employee with a condition loses employer-sponsored coverage, sometimes because the employee cannot work due to the health condition.
OWNERSHIP – Expand individual lifelong ownership of health insurance.
PRE-BIRTH – Encourage parents to buy individual health insurance policies for their children pre-birth, and transfer responsibility for payment to the child at adulthood.
TAX REFORM – End tax deduction for employer-sponsored coverage.
GRANTS – For those stuck with Pre-Ex conditions, give temporary financial support to states to establish high-risk pools, NOT for reinsurance (Health Plan subsidies).
Set Medicare Recipients Free The Clinton administration imposed a Social Security rule in 1997 without public notice or comment. In 2008 a lawsuit, including plaintiff Dick Armey who wanted to keep his insurance, was filed. SCOTUS refused to hear the case in January 2013.
RESCIND – The SSA requirement that individuals enroll in Medicare Part A to receive their Social Security Retirement benefits.
RESCIND – The SSA requirement that forces senior citizens to pay everything back, including Social Security benefits, if they disenroll from Medicare Part A.
EXECUTIVE ORDER – President Trump can issue an Executive Order to rescind the rule and strip the prohibition from SSA Procedure Operations Manual System (POMS).
Restore Catastrophic Coverage Health plans are an aberration pushed by Ted Kennedy (HMO Act of 1973). SCOTUS in Pegram vs Hedrich said Congress’s purpose for the law was to ration health care. –
REPEAL ACA §1302(e) – Repeal Obamacare prohibition on catastrophic coverage
EXEMPT FROM TAXATION – Exempt indemnity major medical non-interference policies (new or returning entrants) from federal taxes for 10 years
REPEAL HMO ACT – Repeal approved merger of financing/deliver to end health plan control over federal/state policy decisions and patient/doctor treatment decisions.
DISFAVOR MANAGED CARE – Health plans are the problem, not the solution.
NO MANDATES – Do not require EHB or insurance, or prohibit health-sharing.
FAVOR HSA – Large HSAs; Sen. Paul S.222 HSA section; Delink HSA from HDHP
They have may more ideas please go check them out at the link, and check out The Wedge, a free trade zone for healthcare
No, I am not going to delve into the debate over whether those who were not going to vote on this bill were right or wrong strategically. Overall, I thought the bill was simply a, how should I put this nicely, a big sack of camel dung. Sure, it was preferable to the gargantuan sack of camel dung that ObamaCare is. But, the bill, the manner in which it was put together, and its content was basically a failure.
No, I am not going to throw up my hands and say we Congress cannot still repeal ObamaCare. I am not going to say they cannot replace it. I am going to say that they MUST do these two things. Unless they want to start losing elections of course. They are fully capable of getting it done, IF they are willing to overcome two major issues. First they must focus on American principles. Yes, principles. Three of our principles as a nation individualism, individual liberties, and individual responsibility. One of those responsibilities is to provide for ourselves. That clearly should include health insurance. One of the biggest mistakes America ever made was to paint health insurance as any type of collective right, or, in fact, a “right” at all. Once we did that, a Pandora’s Box of problems was opened. And, I doubt that box can ever be fully closed again.
So, if we cannot close that box, then what? Well, the biggest goal must be to get the government out of the business of health insurance. If the goal is to insure more Americans, and decrease costs, then government can do very little except to get the heck out-of-the-way. In fact that would be their very best aim.
In short, there ought to be no federal law deciding what must be covered, that is an individual choice. There must be no mandate requiring health insurance. In fact, I can think of nothing better than allowing Americans to buy insurance without any government interference at all.
As far as subsidies, or tax credits go, I doubt either helps lower costs, and both create an entitlement. And, as Dennis Prager said recently, nothing is as addictive as “free”. Once you think you are getting something for “free”, well, you do the math. Sure subsidies/tax credits would allow some who have not had insurance to get it. Some people under ObamaCare were able to afford insurance. The flip side of that coin? Many lost insurance, or had their premiums and deductibles skyrocket. And many, like me was forced to choose between the penalty for not having insurance and paying huge premiums for insurance that I would likely never get to use because of the massive deductibles.
So, what should Congress do? Or more to the point, what should Republicans do? Well, first off they must please both the Conservative and Moderate wings of the party. Yeah, how did that just work out? Let us face a stark reality. The Republican Party is much less unified by ideology than is the Democratic Party. We are the party of Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Louie Gohmert sure. But we are also the party of John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, and Olympia Snowe. We are also the party of Rand Paul. I know the media paints the Democratic Party as a “big tent party” but the GOP is far more ideologically diverse, so we will never get a consensus on a bill that cuts out government involvement completely.
So, all we can do is to get the best bill possible, take our time, and allow the people to have time to view the bill BEFORE a vote. Do not give us excuses about time. Congress has time. Let the Democrats grandstand on Russiaphobia, and fake scandals. Republicans have the majority in both houses, so ignore the braying asses like Pelosi and Schummer and write a better bill! Once such a bill has been written, and the people have seen it, THEN vote on it. THEN pass it. THEN President Trump can sign it. THEN we can start actually seeing positive results.
Finally, we, the people, have to understand that there will be measures of compromise in this bill. We also must realize that it will have faluts, but it will be better than ObamaCare. Also undestand that repealing ObamaCare and replacing it with a bill more in line with American principles will move us several steps in the right direction. And that beats the heck out of standing in place or backing up.
Jonathan Gruber is a perfect example of how unfeeling and dismissive the Central Planners on the left are. You can literally see and hear how much he loathes anyone who dares challenge his law. Never mind it has hurt millions, never mind that it is failing. And of course, never mind that it is nothing but a grotesque power grab by Statists like Gruber
A View From the Beach adds more context to just how awful ObamaCare is
A frequent Democratic argument is that the number of people who will lose their insurance if Obamacare is repealed is unacceptable, bolstered by a new CBO report which considers the repeal without any Republican replacement. PRINTED IN LARGE, FRIENDLY LETTERS: Don’t Panic Over the CBO Repeal Report.The Sneaky Democratic Politics Behind the Scary New Obamacare Numbers. Don Surber explains why the Number of people who will lose health care upon repeal is zero
. . . Just remember the figure that 30 million will lose their health care under the repeal is hysterically wrong.
The number is zero.
Congress repealing Obamacare cancels zero health insurance policies.
But it does allow people who do not want the coverage to drop it.
We call that freedom.
Ah freedom, something Gruber does not believe in. Choice and liberty are for the elites, like himself, not for the stupid commoners! Gruber is, like all Leftists a Collectivist. And in his view everyone must be a subject of government. Freedom, to him, and those like him, is an obstacle to his grand vision. President Trump, is no Johnathan Gruber. Consider his executive order on ObamaCare
A textbook example of the bureaucratic mischief that the President’s order seeks to stop is the contraception mandate. Nothing resembling this edict appears in the “Affordable Care Act.” It was the brainchild of HHS apparatchiks and arbitrarily added to the list of “minimum essential benefits” that all health insurance must include, whether sold through Obamacare’s exchanges or offered by businesses to their employees. The damage done by this one regulation, in terms of restricting religious liberty, destroying businesses, and wasting taxpayer dollars, is incalculable. This executive order seeks to prevent further such outrages.
The actual text of the Inauguration Day order consists of six brief paragraphs. Section 1 begins thus: “It is the policy of my Administration to seek the prompt repeal of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111-148).” It goes on to say that, “pending such repeal,” the Trump administration will make sure that the law is efficiently implemented, but that it will also assure that the myriad economic and regulatory burdens that it places on the nation are minimized. It also indicates that the administration will provide the states with “more flexibility and control to create a free and open healthcare market.”
Section 2 speaks directly to the HHS secretary and the leaders of all other executive branch agencies, charging them to use their authority to delay the implementation of Obamacare in any way that doesn’t conflict with the legal duties of their positions. It pointedly orders them to focus on provisions that would impose fiscal and regulatory burdens “on individuals, families, healthcare providers, health insurers, patients, recipients of healthcare services, purchasers of health insurance, or makers of medical devices, products, or medications.” It tells them, in other words, to take this deadweight off the backs of the voters.
It seems that Democrats with something to lose are open to helping replace the train wreck that is ObamaCare
(Politico) Senate Democrats will never vote to repeal Obamacare. But once the deed is done, a surprising number of them say they’re open to helping Republicans replace it.
“If it makes sense, I think there’ll be a lot of Democrats who would be for it,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).
As Republicans aim to make good on their years-long vow to quash Obamacare and replace it with their own health care vision, they’ll have to do something Democrats were never able to: Bring members of the opposing party on board. Enacting any substantive alternative will take at least eight Democratic votes in the Senate.
Well, as Pirates Cove points out, the GOP could go all gansta and jam it through like the Dems did in 2010
Why? Republicans can repeal it and replace it in exactly the same fashion as Democrats passed it, using parliamentary shenanigans.
Whatever it takes to rid America of this abomination, do it!